NEW - Tablo Windows 10/Xbox App Update (v.1.9.9)

This is hard to say, since we haven’t tested this specific use case to begin with. If the Chromium base is updated with these changes, then it would no longer function. At this time, our recommendation for Linux users is to use FireFox.

We can’t speak to every combination or use case, but as it stands, our configuration will soon be unsupported (publicly hosted web app, local hardware, without SSL).

That’s likely the case - a workaround you could consider is using Firefox.

Assuming these changes from Chrome make their way to the Brave browser, yes, it will have the same issue.

With regards to the missing filters: these will be included in future updates as part of the new app refreshes.

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Actually, Brave may have more control and might not have to do everything Google demands.

Hi Tablo -
You have totally confused us. On one hand, you recommend using Firefox, yet in some other posts, you suggest that over the long-term, you are giving up on the web-based access to our Tablo devices all together (which would be a colossal mistake on Tablo’s part).

Can you clarify? Are you going to add the “Recent recordings” button to the Firefox web-access, and provide full support for web-access from Firefox? There’s a few million of us who don’t give a rip about Windows 10, 11 or whatever. One major strength of the Tablo products is that Tablo is accessible from any network device via a browser. Google Chrome notwithstanding, please clarify that you will maintain browser access to our Tablo devices so that Linux, Chromebook and other non-Windoze devices can use our Tablos.

Thank you!

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…as well as (not using) data mining proprietary streaming devices.

They know how many access via web app, and how few are not Windows users, sure it’s a minority, but we’d like to continue using tablo without investing in what we don’t need.

My guess is the key part here is the “publicly hosted web app” statement and unencrypted traffic would be allowed if the web app were locally hosted.

This was posted in a different topic about issues with Chrome: Google-Chrome 92 beta doesn't work with my.tablotv.com - #10 by zippy

Private network requests are requests whose target server’s IP address is more private than that from which the request initiator was fetched. For example, a request from a public website (https://example.com) to a private website (http://router.local), or a request from a private website to localhost.

My “non-developer” understanding - tablo start’s public my.tablotv.com which in turns gets a response from https://api.tablotv.com/assocserver/getipinfo/ this provides the browser with your local networks IP of your tablo and connects to your private network HTTP no S!

Starts with a public address… ends up with a private address. I kind of think when you access your router or media streaming on your router – you access directly via a private address internally on your LAN. They even provide an illustration.

A suggested work-around includes:

If the subresource is served from a private IP address, serve the embedder website from a private IP address as well.
If the subresource is served from localhost, serve the embedder website from localhost as well.

If it’s all within a private address - on your LAN, it’s a non-issue. (?)

Again, non-developer, non-network administrator.

While the Tablo implementation is rare, I would think that there’s other things that might be affected by this change apart from Tablo.

(I could be wrong)

You got it correct if you use developer mode in Chrome you will see this warning. It says Chrome 92 but the article you showed indicates the delayed the feature to 93 to feedback. Which links back to the feature. Chrome Feature
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Calling it a “feature” that’s a throw back :laughing: to the “old days”.

Features vs Functionality:

Features are the “tools” you [may] choose to use or [may] be options within a system to complete a set of tasks or actions. Features exist to meet users needs.
Functionality is how the system operates, with out user choice.


Ok, CORS Feature may have it uses... how do I disable this *feature* :thinking: ....so as to meet my needs? Oh, it's actually just it's basic function -- just it sounds nicer to tell users we now have a new feature to protect them (from themselves)

Is the problem a redirect? Just bring up a web page with a link. I don’t mind clicking.

I have Firefox 90.02 64bit running on Mint Linux.
my.tablotv.com is very slow to load and often it doesn’t load at all.
CC is screw up and many times when it does load it quits part way through.
Your quote:“For our Linux users, we have validated that the Firefox browser supports most features of the Tablo web app at this time.”
Is pure bull.
If you can’t get it working I think you owe me a refund for the lifetime channel guide and the cost of the Tablo device.

What OS are you using? I’m using Mint Linux.
Or we some setting that is different because I have let firefox try to load for the last 15 minutes.
Rebooted Tablo and stoped and started firefox.

@TabloTV I appreciate that you have added the banner notice about the impending death of connecting via Chrome. However, it has royally fouled up the Live TV grid! I can’t scroll down far enough to see the last station on my grid, and I can’t scroll down far enough to obtain the horizontal scroll bar to move forward in time easily.

Same on some other screens, but they aren’t as fatally flawed (eg. TV Shows and Recordings), as long as I have a roller wheel on my mouse and don’t rely on pulling down the scroll bar. (My wife doesn’t like having the wheel on her mouse, and I wouldn’t be able to scroll to the bottom using a trackpad on a laptop.)

Not sure if some of the items at the bottom of the Settings screen are missing due to the banner notice.

@TabloTV - Please make and option to dismiss the banner message. Once dismissed, you could configure it to pop up again after a period of time with increasing frequency as D-Day (Death to Chrome) approaches.

I’ve been using Firefox with tablo’s web app on my Debian system since I’ve had it, issue free. Same result cjcox illustrates.

Recordings doesn’t have “Most Recent” and lacks “Failed”. TV Shows and Movies don’t have “New” or “Genres”. There may be more, after almost 3yrs this is the first time I’ve bothered actually comparing. (tablo just says “most” screes and filters but won’t say which… so maybe they never have either)

Ive never used CC, I watched live TV, tapped the cc button and the text instantly appeared.

I don’t believe it’s fair to say it’s Firefox and/or Linux Mint in it’s self not working as is. Do you or Mint have extensions or settings which may interfere? (maybe extended privacy/security “stuff”) Do you have other devices/app to access your tablo which work with less/no issues?

I use Linux Mint 20.2 on a dual boot Windows 10 machine and can use Tablo with Firefox using either. Agree with djk44883,very likely some Firefox extension setting is giving you problems.

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Humm, my laptop with running Debian works mostly fine. Some problems with CC being in different order.
Looks like I have to dig into settings.

My desktop, where I’m having issues, is my main system for banking and online ordering and such. Spent a lot of time securing the browser.

On my laptop I can connect with http://my.tablotv.com
My desktop converts this to https://my.tablotv.com

Wonder if it’s that Secure http:
Tips on firefox website as to how to selectively turn that off are not working.

This is very unlikely the issue. Whether or not you start HTTPS, the local connection - the steaming from tablo to your browser is not either way. That’s part of the new issue with Chrome.

Nevertheless::

Under Privacy and Security you have an option to NOT have Firefox add it… while virtually most all web sites now will redirect you. I turned it off, makes it easier to access my router by name for one. There may still be a site or two without an SSL certificate which I still need/want to visit. I suppose I could/should add an exception.

If you really want to dig into things… about:profiles and restart with Add-Ons Disabled OR Help > Troubleshoot Mode (this used to be called safe mode)

How different are you Firefox configurations between devices? Least ideal choice, copy your working profile to your other systems (although I’ve done this, it’s not something to recommend). Firefox has a sync facility (me, I’ve signed in, sync’d and signed out) It’s a bit easier have different systems set up very similar.

Yea, I have a Windows 10 PC which I have little to no use for but it’s nice to have the same Firefox setup if/when I do use it.

Is there a difference how either of these systems connect to your network?
“securing the browser” ?? in what ways was it insecure? Had you secured anything on the network level? (proxy, vpn)?

The page isn’t redirecting properly

Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.

This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept cookies.