Tablo Ripper - Automatically download new recordings

I can’t imagine my $2,500 Dell XPS with an Intel® Core™ i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz, 2801 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical processor, and 32 GB of RAM isn’t fast enough to backup these up in a reasonable amount of time!

@Nilex stated their backups were taking between 7-15 minutes to backup a 1 hour show, but I’m seeing 2-3 hours per show, so what am I missing here?

So far this is not a viable solution at this point with this configuration and settings and hardware.

@CycleJ, you stated after the backup it deletes the backup. That is not what I asked. I do NOT want to delete anything from my Tablo’s external hard it uses to store my shows. I want to delete from the backup folder, any shows that I have watched and deleted. So does Tablo Ripper have this capability, because if not, that would be way too much work having to manually write down on a piece of paper what shows I’ve watched and deleted, and then go to the backup folder and delete the ripped backup.
And I don’t get what you mean by it copies my shows from my Table to my backup folder, because in my backup folder are all .mp4 files, not some file format that I would think that I would not recognize, that Tablo stores on my Tablo external hard drive.

So if this software isn’t going to be able to do what I thought it can do, is there a better solution?

Best Regards,

Robert

Wired Tablo time example (using SurLaTablo):

## (2013120) The Blacklist - s06e18 - The Brockton College Killer ##
        Friday, April 26, 2019 at 07:00 PM
        KXAS-DT(NBC) - 1080i [1:01:16]
        Tablo: 192.168.1.203

        Description:
        The task force is drawn into the investigation of an old case that has gained
        notoriety due to a popular true crime podcast; Red visits Dom Wilkinson for
        help making a difficult decision; Ressler makes a discovery about Katarina
        Rostovas past.

        James Spader;Megan Boone;Diego Klattenhoff;Harry Lennix;Ryan Eggold;Mozhan Marnò;Hisham Tawfiq;Amir Arison

Working on:                             [./TV/The Blacklist/Season 6/The Blacklist - s06e18 - The Brockton College Killer]
 Retrieving Tablo Data (2013120):       [####################] 100% Elapsed seconds 144.0
 Transcoding (Mp4, .mp4):               [####################] 100% Elapsed seconds 3.0

Extraction at 144 seconds is what takes the time. As you can see, default recontainerization doesn’t take anytime at all. That extraction time can be reduced… (ah… the future)…

I’m using the recommend 720 5Mbps setting for recordings.

SurLaTablo does not delete the recording unless you specify that as an option. I’d be surprised if there isn’t an option to Tablo Ripper to prevent the deletion. I means, sometimes you want to reprocess a recording off the Tablo.

Sorry, misunderstood what you wanted to delete. And no, TabloRipper can’t keep track of what ripped shows you’ve finished watching. That’s why I used Plex to watch - it keeps track, but doesn’t auto-delete.

FFMPEG has an option (used by TabloRipper) to perform a copy of the input file. So the output format matches what you recorded. Transcoding, which takes longer, changes the output format.

Sounds like you have a fast PC, so you’re stuck with how fast your Tablo sends data. It was designed to playback at normal speed, not 10x quicker.

Perhaps you’re recording at the highest quality? That’ll take longer to send than lowering it to the ‘recommended’ quality.

So try the other rippers, see if they’re quicker? I suspect the timing will be quite similar for the same show.

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How is your Tablo connected to your network? Ethernet or WiFi?

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I’ll disagree on this one…ffmpeg pulls it off as quickly as the Tablo will send it, which is not 1.x…I get speeds similar to mentioned before…< 5 min’s for an hour show.

I also agree that it’s not likely the speed of his pc or his hard drive…so the only link in the chain that I can see is his connection to the Tablo…

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@cjcox,

I just started doing research on SurLaTablo, but at this point I’m at work, and supposed to be working, so I don’t know if this will run on Windows 10, or if it is Linux (or whatever flavor) based.

@CycleJ,
So that means that I would either have to manually delete the shows I’ve copied/ripped/whatever to my backup folder, or I would have to create a new backup folder to create a new backup of my current files stored on my Tablo external hard drive. That’s not a very good solution.

@tickko
Everything in my network is hard wired.

Best Regards,

Robert

I just cancelled my backup that started around 8:00 PM EST last night, and only has 17 .mp4 files ripped at 12:3 PM EST.

There has to be a better way to do this!

Best Regards,

Robert

It sure seems that the easiest thing for me to do would be to purchase a WD 4TB My Book Duo Desktop RAID External Hard Drive - USB 3.1 - WDBFBE0040JBK-NESN, from Amazon for $229, and set it up as RAID 0, and connect it to my Tablo, and then not worry about needing to backup my recordings.

Opinions?

This backing up with third party application sure seems not worth the trouble.

Best Regards,

Robert

To be fair, all the third party solutions you’ve discussed here are NOT designed for backup. They’re designed to move the video content to an alternative playback system, like Plex.

There is one script that was published specifically designed to back up the Tablo drive. It requires a Linux-like environment: Backup-tablo.sh - Backup all recorded shows from a Tablo

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SurLaTablo needs python (2 btw, not 3) and ffmpeg. I have an old howto video (Windows 7) at https://endlessnow.com/ten/SurLaTablo/Installation.mp4 It’s out of date… but still… might be useful.

I have tested SurLaTablo with Windows 10, MacOS (up to High Sierra at least) and of course, pretty much any Linux.

If all you want is a “backup in case of hard drive failure”, then RAID sounds good.

If you’re looking to re-home your recordings, you’ll want one of the many ripper options available. But I agree - it shouldn’t take an hour to rip a one-hour show. There’s something else going on that limits how quickly your Tablo is sending data to FFMPEG.

This isn’t really a “backup” process. I use capto with wrapto, which uses ffmpeg as well. I have a much slower PC, over a wired network.

Recording quality and length will have an impact, but generally about a 1.5 seconds to a minute ratio recording 5mbps. - 112 seconds for a 1h1m show…

yea, there’s a better way to to it - I hope you discover your issue! 3rd party apps rock!

Is there any way to upload files to the Tablo? I ripped a recording from PBS and edited out the pleas for money. Now I would like to transfer the edited version of the file back to the Tablo.

Nope. It doesn’t work like that. Tablo didn’t store the “recording” in one big file.


It transcode the data so it can stream it over the network.
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Then it uses the guide data to store information about recordings in it’s DB, so “pretending” you put it in a format tablo could use, it would have no way to know it’s there… to display it in the list of shows to play.

OK, thanks. Sorry for the dumb question!

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I recommend you install the Plex or Emby media server on your computer.

Yeah, I actually do have a Plex server. I was just curious if it could be done.

It’s not truly a dumb question, it’s been asked before. Lack of understanding doesn’t always equate to stoopid… so we provide what information is available, and share insight we’ve learned along the way :smiley:

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I downloaded it…I “selected” about 30 Jeopardy episodes. It ripped the most recent two, and now it doesn’t rip anything. It starts “initializing” then all the selected disappears from the selected list and nothing is ripped to the destination folder. Help!

I think the first thing @CycleJ will ask you to do is to enable logging on the configuration tab to see if a error message is being displayed.

If that doesn’t help, I’m sure @CycleJ will be able to provide additional help.