So why not a non internet access app?

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Just wanted to chime in with a few details…

As currently designed, it is not possible for us to provide access to the web app without an active internet connection.

It could be possible IF we had chosen to bundle the web app within Tablo’s firmware. However, we specifically chose not to do this as it would prevent us from releasing app updates independently from firmware updates, significantly curtailing the flexibility of the product and release schedules.

Our focus is also on developing the product to be easy-to-use for the average non-technical user.

While we realize there are a subset of power users like the folks in this thread, most Tablo owners would not be able to look up a DHCP lease and bookmark their Tablo’s IP address. Heck, they probably couldn’t even tell you what DHCP was or why they should care about it.

That being said, we acknowledge that there are ways we can improve the product for advanced users, including providing alternatives to the current network discovery process.

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Sorry for minor understandings here but is there any estimate how long Tablo can operate without active internet connection?

When storms knock out our ISP, ATV4/base station router maintain Tablo access for a while.

Suppose how long it works without active ISP depends where it’s sitting with regard to lease renewal?

And of course, if it outage lasts long enough no guide data.

Oh well thanks if comments can help me better understand…

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FlyingDiver, djk44883 having a separate switch is also about separation of concerns. Let the ISP router be the component that routes traffic to/from your home network to the internet. Let your network switch take care of routing everything else.

I also like that I can reboot/reconfigure/relocate/upgrade my ISP router without impact to TV viewing.

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For non-web based Tablo apps, like the Roku Tablo app, it should be indefinitely.
If my internet connection goes down, I can still use the Roku Tablo app to access my Tablo.
The Roku will warn me that it senses the internet connection is down, but will allow me to continue anway.
The DHCP lease renewal for the Tablo should have no effect on functionality during this period, cuz the DHCP server is within the local network, and doesn’t require an internet connection at all.

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thanks

yes i see that with ROKU in other room although a little laggy to accept continue without

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What continue are you talking about on which Roku and Roku OS?

The internet down message has changed over various Roku OS releases.

At one time the message required a response which was easy to input. Then it went through a period where the message appeared twice. Then a period where the message appeared once but was hard to answer.

But I thought when I last tested on Roku OS 9.X the message was just informative.

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my bad, it wasn’t “continue” but “Proceed anyway” 2nd option after “Set up connection” Error code: 016 When launching Tablo app from home page.

I’ve woken this Roku and seen the same message for the device and again when launching Tablo app.

version 9.0.0
build 4083

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:black_heart: I couldn’t click the little “like” heart, but I do appreciate the acknowledgment of potential improvements… and accept we are probably a minority subset.

but really, combining OTA and networking – it’s been a geeks world long before the “discovery” of free TV…you had to know something would happen

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I agree with you dkj. Who goes through the trouble of putting an IP enabled device on a network to watch TV if they don’t already have this background? Hard to believe we are not the majority not the minority. This product would be 10/10 for me with this one feature added.

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This is kind of a non-starter. I haven’t done a pcap to verify, but doesn’t Tablo use mDNS (Bonjour/Avahi)? If not, put that on the roadmap, or require vanilla IPv6 be enabled. Problem solved!