Nothing but problems complete waste of money

Mkay. Gotta stop you there.

Have you seen any of the advertising? It is very very simplistic and give us in no way any idea of WTF this is or what it does! And then the 8 page setup guide with 95% of it being just pictures…

That aside, though, yes. There must have been some rush if the beta testers barely had a chance to play with it before it suddenly appeared on shelves. It’s also understandable that some rushing had to be done in order to get it into consumer hands by the ever-so-important holidays. Get it into some homes early, get it under the tree shortly after.

This seems to be a product that is hit or miss, and every day brings a different one of those. Today, I’m ready to bury one 2 feet under the icy snow, while I could kiss the other. Anything with technology can have its ups and downs, and with software, hardware and firmware constantly changing, every minute can bring different results.

But, there’s a huge community of people here that want to help. Just saying, “It doesn’t work,” isn’t giving anyone information on what they can do to steer someone in the right direction. But expecting an upset user to sit down with every detail from their Tablo, STB, app, router, network is asking too much (Sorry, @KimchiGUN , I know you readily give that and sometimes it’s too much and it makes me chuckle!) We’ve got to meet people in the middle and try to help. But they have to want it.

If my 3 months of this has taught me anything, it’s that we’ve all been disheartened by this product at one point or another since introducing it into our lives. It’s easy to throw in the towel and say screw it. It’s harder to ask for what to do about a problem than to complain. We all feel like we’ve tried everything we can to make it work.

There are some very smart individuals on this forum and I’m glad to have them here. They are the helpful ones that are always offering advice and saying, “have you tried _____”. And when I scream to myself and say, “Yes, thirty times!” I have to slow down and say, “Yes, it didn’t work. What else do you think might?”

Was this product ready for market? I would say mostly yes. Even within weeks of having my first 2-tuner, app and firmware updates would improve one aspect and break another. I don’t rely on Roku, so I had some better luck than others – but it was also a great backup when the Android app had a broken search function. There’s a ton of code in this and the smallest change can break an important feature. It’s got to be hard to know when to release an update. I’m sure TabloTV wants these malfunctioning apps and devices fixed more than we do! Some of us are just more stubborn than others and will spend two days on the simplest issue.

I sold one to my Mom, and I wouldn’t have done it if I didn’t believe that even she could handle the quirks and other oddities that can arise. The live TV thing is a problem all around. Yes, the Android app handles the buffering better as well as the signal loss which I think freaks out the Roku version, but it’s not perfect. (I think it would play more smoothly if it didn’t automatically load other stuff at the bottom of the screen while paying live TV or a recording – too much is being asked of the device/RAM/HD at one time).

It’s not easy to spend $80-100 on a device that’s not working the way you want it to. But sometimes we buy something that has one purpose and want it to work a little differently, too. Programmers can only try to guess what a user will find most useful. I think this does an above adequate job. Today is just a day where one is being temperamental – I still think that double 2.2.48 update smacked my 2-tuners around! My 4-tuner is being easy-breezy but maybe tomorrow the roles will reverse. Only so many apps/devices/systems/setups can be accounted for and tested. Like it or not, in this day and age, we’re all guinea pigs.

It’s heartbreaking to see a user just come on to say “this is junk, don’t buy it.” But even more so when the information they could provide could help others, and of course, that others advice could help them.

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Every chance I get to say Tablo 4th gen does Not work with Roku. I suggest do t Chrosmcast with GoogleTV. I can’t help it if people don’t listen .

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I’ve noticed! :-). And even so, what works for some won’t work for others. The layout, ads, other aspects of any STB can be hard for anyone to take when they already have what they like.

It’s understandable that users don’t want to have to buy a new device or turn away from what they’re used to. I really hope that updates to these issues are coming soon.

I do agree, though, that the Android/Fire version seems to be much more stable right now. I hope the next update doesn’t reverse it and they both work well!

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I signed up when they askedfor beta testers for AppleTV.i have cat 6 from cable modem to router. Wired to Tablo 4th gen but 802.11AC for Chromecast with Google TV and Roku. Legacy is 100% all 802.11AC

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I feel a need to chime in here.There were numerous beta testers who worked on their respective platforms prior to release. My platforms were Roku and Android Mobile.

When doing system integration like the Tablo to Roku and the Tablo to Android mobile interfaces, it becomes clear that it’s impossible for the beta testers and the end users to determine which platform has the problem. Is it the Tablo or the Roku? Only the platform engineers can determine which. That requires a large amount of cooperation between the platform engineers on both sides. Tablo submitted updates to their app that run on Roku and Android/Google, only to be told to wait for the update to be posted.

I know that being forced to wait for the updates to be posted to platforms outside of their control is frustrating. It tries the patience of the Tablo customers as well and it shows by the number of complaints about the 4th Gen. Many times they would make a change to the 4th Gen Tablo to try a work-around to the interface problem between the Tablo dvr and the Roku platform. Tablo progress has been slowed by the platform owners. Updates can’t come as fast as they and we want because of the dependency on outside forces.

Another thing to consider. Roku can easily become a competitor to Tablo.When I got my first TV with Roku built in, I found they have the pause/rewind feature. Attaching a thumb drive to the usb port makes it possible. It won’t take much to turn it into a dvr. Just saying.

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I believe the Android/Fire platform have a much richer development platform for parties like Tablo to develop apps.

Since the fire OS releases are matched to specific models of STB’s, I would bet any changes in those areas are SOL.

I have owned these DVRs: CM DVRPAL, CM DVR+, Amazon Recast and now the Tablo. Of all the them I like a lot of Tablo’s features better. The Channel Guide is better! The settings is much easier to get to and work with. The items in the Settings are much easier to update including channel scans and not having to save the scan if you don’t want to.

Getting to your recordings is better and deleting them is better.

There is much more I could point out that makes this better than other DVRs I have owned.

My point is it is NOT a waste of money and while there are some problems the device is supported and the company is continually working to make fixes and improvements for the benefit of us customers!

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I don’t have problems with my three Rokus. But I understand that some people here do.

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I was able to watch the rest of the weekend of football zero issues with a HDHomeRun no games chopped up with no fast forward no messsed up schedule I am not wanting to be a beta tester I want products that work

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Happy for you!

So did I… on my Tablo / Roku Ultra. :grin: :grin: :grin:

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I have had consistent issues with my Gen 4 Tablo across all my devices (Roku, Fire, AND Chromecast with Google TV).

The device “disappears” from my network. It’s connected by ethernet. My Legacy Tablo never has this issue.

Recording failures. I get messages like No Tuner Available for recording when 1) NO other recordings are scheduled and 2) it’s a streaming channel. It is connected by ethernet to the router and I don’t have internet issues with any of my other devices. I have WiFi 6 router, 500mbps service, but the router typically clocks 600mbps on speed tests. Even WiFi to my Apple TV is over 500mbps.

The external hard drive appears and disappears. This is a brand new hard drive purchased specifically for the Gen 4 Tablo. If I reboot the Tablo, it re-acknowledges the hard drive.

I get fragmented recordings. 6 minutes. 10 minutes. All over the place. There is no discernible pattern for these fragmented recordings. This is on both streaming and OTA.

I have it set to NOT record duplicate airings. But it records duplicates even on the same channel like PBS which rebroadcasts the Sunday primetime programs after midnight and again on Friday. BUT it doesn’t do the duplicate recordings on all programs or every week. It’s random.

I have great antenna reception at my home. I don’t have issues with my Legacy Quad. But I have not had a grear experience with the Gen 4.

So I can understand someone coming onto the community page and saying they have nothing but problems. I don’t have any of these issues with Legacy Quad. This device should be pretty plug and play. I find it to be very glitchy.

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I had a similar issue with one of the brand new drives that I had purchased for 4th gen Tablo and finally decided to return and get another drive which worked fine and haven’t had those issues since. Don’t know know if your problem is the same but your having exactly the same issues I ran into.

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I can understand Hoobash feeling about the Tablo 4th gen. I have had mine about a month this was my choice for cutting the cord and I have quite a few of the problems talked about in this post, the worst of which is kicking out of the Tablo app. to the Roku home screen when watching OTA channels. I have tried everything including Tablo support which I find sadly to say a joke, over sea phone support with a call center that sounds like they are reading from script the end result is wait for an update that hopefully will fix the glitches between the app. and Roku device. I have good internet and the Tablo and Roku are hard wire ethernet, I have tired different antennas two different Roku ultras, reboots, clearing cache on Roku, rescan for channels, reinstalling the tablo app. I can hook the antenna up to a cheap tunner box and the OTA channels come in and watch fine but the guide stinks and no DVR function. The only thing I have not tried is going to a Amazon fire - Android/Google device. I think the Tablo 4th gen. would be great if they can make it work as advertised. If anyone has any other thoughts about a fix please post, seems like a lot of people are having trouble from my research on the internet- maybe Tablo should get it gear and address these issues in the hardware or app. firmware.

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I don’t have a 4 but from the posts over the last few months does look like they have shot themselves in the foot. I hope they get it sorted out.

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I had not seen this topic before today, and it’s “comforting” to know that I am in good company. I also have had nothing but problems, and Tablo Consumers should not have to pay to be part of the Beta testing of a product.
The marketing of this product’s capabilities is clearly misleading and deceptive.
Shot themselves in the foot-not ready for prime time-out over their skis----Take your pick.

I just checked this software review out-scroll to the ratings and reviews:

Just got my second 4th gen I like it so much. Yes there are problems but also so many things to like too. I am optimistic the issues will eventually be fixed and the DVR will be even better!

I have recorded probably over 100 hours on my first one and aside from a few freezes from time to time and getting bumped out I have been able to come back in and watch the recordings. I love the guide, the closed caption controls and the nice Settings menu. Picture quality is pretty good too.

I’m still learning how this DVR works but so far it is a keeper for me.

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I understand the “half empty; half full” perspective. But the 4th Gen is marketed by touting all of its functions-Maybe Tablo should offer to return half of the price paid.

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Looking at those reviews, they were from a couple week period where there were quite a few issues. They’re pretty old ones and the things that they are mentioning are no longer a problem. One seemed like it was complaining about the Roku app, which is an unfair way to judge the android version!

There was one that mentioned that there was no search – the most definitely is a search function (although, for about a day it was broken on the androidTV/fireTV version, it was there… and you could search, you just couldn’t schedule a recording.)

I can only say this so many times, but people need to stop relying on one device to solve all their problems. You don’t have one set of keys for your car. You don’t rely on one television station. You don’t rely on one streaming platform.

I can’t stand the look and feel of the Roku app for Tablo. It’s clunky and missing a ton of features. But other people love it and it was there for me to use while the search function was down on other devices.

Everyone has the devices they love and rely on, but it would be so great if people would open themselves up to new experiences. Tablo and Roku must be working on something because it has been improving. If you’re using an older stick, expect to have more issues than a brand new one. “So-and-so app works” is a BS way of looking at the problem. None of them deliver raw MPEG2 content to your television. They all receive a compressed video stream.

Roku doesn’t have everything I want. Android doesn’t have everything I want. Apple doesn’t have everything I want. I’ve found a combination that works for me, and TBH, if I was relying on only a Roku for everything and only one app didn’t work, I’d find a way to make something work!

I’m not saying that Tablo doesn’t need to be more open about what’s going on and push a little harder to fix the issues, but not everyone is having the issues. One Roku worked fine with 12.5.0, whereas another of the same exact model didn’t work right until the 12.5.5 update – is this a Roku or a Tablo issue?

People tend to buy under-powered devices and expect more than they’re capable of. I don’t expect the $20 Walmart onn 4k stick to be the answer to a person’s streaming problem, but it works great for Tablo and if it’s only used for one app, why not try it? I have zero problems with my Amazon Firesticks (1st and 2nd gen 4k max) and it’s why their my main devices, but I have these other STBs for testing purposes and they’re available if I need them in an emergency.

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I agree. Let’s tell the Apple folks to ditch all their Apple devices (you have to remember just how much of the streaming market is dominated by Roku).

The Tablo folks know they have to fix their Roku issues. Would be “unwise” to shutdown that large of a piece of the market.

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