I also checked my other TV using the FireTV stick 4k 1st gen and that does not show the 69.1 station.
I have an ONN device and will now check that. I checked it and it sees the 69.1 etc.
However I just checked the TV with the FireTV stick 4k MAx and it is now also showing the 69.1 stations so they magically came back to the live grid.
It is very strange.
I guess when this crops up I will have to check the Chromebook, Tablet, and ONN device and verify they all show the stations in the âliveâ grid while the FireTV sticks donât. But based on the experiment you talked me into today it does appear to be a FireTV stick working with Tablo issue.
Didnât you say that one of those doesnât come in on another tablo?
Wouldnât that mean you have two separate guides saved? That being the case, switching between the two would give you different results. YES, it would be great if this automatically changed when you switched Tablos, but it sounds like itâll do it with some time. (I know a force quit & cache clear will take care of this, but then itâs back if I switch devices.)
No none of the FireTV sticks showed the station in the grid. Everything else did. However what messed things up was when I went back to my main TV after all of these experiments it now shows the stations in question in the grid. So they magically came back to the TV in question which caused me to post this issue to begin with. This TV has the FireTV stick 4k Max second gen.
Yes I have two separate guides because each tablo is connected to a different antenna with very different reception results. 69.1 is not even received by Tablo1 and is only scanned and stored by Tablo2.
It sounds like after some time the app closed itself and refreshed the cache, thereby showing the full guide, forgetting that it was using the other Tablo.
TabloTV I will have to try these suggestions next time this crops up. I do switch from Tablo to Tablo quite often. Maybe several times a day so this might be an area where a problem is coming up.
I will report back when the issue crops up again and I will try all of these suggestions to see what if any work.
This afternoon I confirmed that the 2 Tablos are definitely interacting with each other as far as the guide is concerned. I guess there was never a thought to program a situation where there are 2 Tablos on the network with different scaned channels and different guide requirements?
So what happens is Tablo2 live channels will have the live channels and guide replaced by Tablo1 live channels and guide if I switch between them. Not sure how this was programmed to do that but it is happening.
To fix it I switch back and maybe do it twice and it corrects itself.
Anyway now that I know what is going on I can do a work around but it looks something that should be not be happening.
I was upgrading from using 3 PVRs and at one point I had three Tablos! The 2-tuner was the only puck available when I bought my first one. I fell in love with it and knew Iâd need to record more than 2 programs at once. I picked up a second 2-tuner and about 3 days after my return date they released the 4-tuner. So, I picked that one up and donated an extra 2-tuner.
While itâs a hassle maintaining two of them, this does have its benefits. I keep a smaller drive on the 2-tuner and its main purpose is daily shows that I know Iâll get to before the drive fills up. The 4-tuner is basically a junk drawer: I record full series or movies I might want to watch â or know I wonât get to for a while.
Iâm guessing the main reason people have two 4th gens is because they believed that it would be all theyâd need for their viewing habits, but later realized they wanted more.
If the 4-tuner was available from day one, I doubt I would have ever purchased a second. Although⌠there have been a couple times where I âneededâ to record 5 things at once. Despite having one remaining PVR, itâs so much simpler to use a device that I can watch on any TV.
But thatâs just my justification. Plain and simple, the 2-tuner is not enough and many users are finding this out. They quickly realized that they should have spent a few more bucks and upgraded at purchase.
Classic Rock guy yes I am using 2 different UHF/VHF antennas and NO you do not want to combine them into one feed! That is a big NO and does not work very well and impacts reception! I know that from experts on other forums and first hand experience.
And thanks to all of you who asked questions about this and also provided help and feedback!
FWIW ⌠there are very bad and very good ways to combine multiple antennas into one feed. My Televes Avant X can properly combine up to 4 different antenna feeds. It digitizes each RF antenna feed, allows you to pick which transmitters you want from each feed, equalizes the resulting suite of signals, digitally combines them, and converts the result back to a single RF output to distribute throughout your home. Really cool device. (Ironically, I use it with just 1 antenna for different reasons.)
After I bought this unit, Televes came out with a more affordable version called Smartkom, which can properly combine and process up to 3 independent antenna feeds into one output for internal distribution. (I think you can buy these on Amazon.)
These devices are high end and work very well, providing significant flexibility and control for multi-antenna situations. Might be worth looking in to for anyone using multiple antennas to grab different signals from different transmitter locations/directions. My brother uses a Smartkom to combine 3 long range antennas on a 30â tower in a rural part of Texas. His Tablo simply sees the resulting RF signal as a single feed.
Of course, you could just use 2 Tablos with different antenna feeds on the same network, and the just switch back and forth. I just wanted folks to know that in a multi-antenna situation there is another very good alternative.
I just provided info on an alternative for multi-antenna situations. I didnât say it was cheap! The Avant x is overkill at $400. The Smartkom, which came out later, is $200 or so. Both of these pieces are excellent quality solutions aimed at high-end OTA installations. Just passing along the info for anyone interested.
Iâve been combining antennas for many years now with great success. Yes I too remember reading about all the pitfalls of combining antennas on the same mast but I ignored them and gave it a try. Currently on my third configuration. Two Televes long range mix (UHF/VHF) antennas on the same mast about two feet apart from each other with equal length 4 foot coax cables into a cheapo splitter/combiner. That splitter/combiner allows power pass through so the signal amplifiers in both antennas work from the single power inserter in the basement. From there it splits through 2, 4 channel distribution amps to all the TVs (5) and 2 Tablos. Cable length from antenna combiner to power inserter is about 65 feet. Both north towers and south towers are about 45 to 50 miles away in nice close clusters (3 towers each direction).