Out-of-Home Streaming - Do I have to move my 60 inch TV?

Most new routers that I have purchased have a guest network function. This would resolve your airbnb issues since your guests will be on a different network segment without access to your family’s network and the Tablo.

That is how my network is setup. Guest can not access LAN resources, only the internet.

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As nuts as it may seem… This is - as you see - the information is/was readily available.

It sends back the forwarded ports along with your public IP https://api.tablotv.com/assocserver/getipinfo/ the local IP, if your accessing from your LAN I supppose.

You can always change ports… but then you need to re-authorize your devices I think. Yes, it’s been noted often a user/pass would be awesome and secure, and never re-done.

Yes, I like this idea. In addition, I would like there to be a password sign-in to the Tablo. And it would be nice if the Tablo GUI allowed some way to select the wifi SSID (after initial setup)… I actually want to change it, but can’t figure out how. If there is an easy way to do this, please let me know.

The Tablo doesn’t broadcast its WiFi SSID after you set it up, it’s disabled after you connect the Tablo to your wireless network. So no need to change the SSID name.

Sorry, I guess I wasn’t clear. I am not talking about the Tablo SSID… why would I want to change that? What I want to change is the SSID that the Tablo is connecting to, that is broadcast by my router. You get to select this during initial setup of wifi on the Tablo, but I cannot find anyway to change it. For example, let’s assume that I currently have my Tablo on the 2.4ghz SSID, and I wanted to changed it over to the 5ghz band? I don’t find anyway to do that. Or what if I changed the SSID names in my router? How would I tell Tablo to use the new SSID names? Or for that matter how do I query the Tablo to see which SSID it is connected to?? For most devices, like a PC, TV or Roku, these are standard settings that can be easily queried and / or changed as necessary.

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I don’t even have my Tablo yet, but what I’m seeing here is a security problem as well as a PITA for legit customers who can’t authenticate on the same network as the Tablo box.

My guess (correct me if anyone knows otherwise) is that security on the Tablo is strictly obfuscation.

Every Tablo on the Internet with the remote access option configured is open, wide open. No username, no password, no nothing.

The security is implemented by a device connecting on the same network and then the device information being stored by Tablo in the cloud. When the remote device asks for the IP address of their Tablo device, Tablo feeds the IP & port back as mentioned by @djk44883 ( https://api.tablotv.com/assocserver/getipinfo/).

The remote device then just connects to the Tablo and has full access - done.

The only security here is a device not knowing where to connect.

I’m sure Tablo is aware of this security risk and when I get my Tablo I will be investigating the network traffic to see what is going on.

Your average Bestbuy shopper would not be able to crack this security, but rest assured there are people out there that can bypass this security setup.

Scanning for these Tablo devices (ie. https://www.shodan.io/ ) and everyone is vulnerable… If you know that the Tablo devices are actually secure, please let me know how the security works as from the picture I am starting to see here things look bad.

Oh man, this is not looking good.

It took me just minutes to find Tablo devices online and listening on the Internet, open for anyone to connect.

They are using self signed SSL certificates.

So…what’s your point? It’s not like you can connect to any of our Tablos without having connected to one first.

This isn’t a brand new device. The Tablo has been out for over 5 years now. No data breaches have been reported by anyone.

Now you don’t need to wait for your Tablo to arrive. Just fire up a Fire TV Stick and remote connect away.

And this may be the exact reason the current Tablo Connect functionality requires pairing the playback device on the local network before being able to utilize Tablo Connect. Ironically/sadly that may be more secure then a login method where someone reuses their same password over and over. Would actually be viable if the pairing functionality was “permanent” but based on other posts it seems like pairing gets “lost” periodically for some people.

I think I will go dark on this topic at this time, I will work with Tablo directly before disclosing any vulnerability publicly.

I’m sure all the Tablo devices are safe out there :wink:

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Let me know when you finally get around to accessing my tablo’s. Just don’t delete my Mr. Ed recordings.

And secretly delete that crap my wife refuses to manage. It’s filling up the disk. I’ll just blame it on a glitch in tablo’s nightly maintenance.

If you find a way, please post in this forum. Thanks!

Thank you. The last time I attempted this procedure I had to call customer support and reconnect my ethernet cable, so they could fix (whatever the issue was – they said they didn’t understand why it hadn’t worked).

I posted a link to a thread about how to change your network setting. I wasn’t the one that had the issue.

I don’t know the complete technical. First the device stores the devices ID and/or is on the same network. Vulnerabilities, there’s often post “have tablo check your logs”… so yea, it seems there’s ways in – with out you knowing, unless this first required heart-beat mode… but until they access, I suppose it’s left open.

Then there’s warning like this -

But let’s not get caught up in fear mongering… the last line

While this is prudent advice, it is worth mentioning that there have not been any known cases of this happening – with hackers taking over a smart TV and spying on its owner.

Let’s say there’s a user/pass authentication – would you consider this secure? …knowing there is deliberate outside access to your home network?

I know. I was / am that person.