New Tivo Bolt Emulates Tablo

If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, then Tivo must really appreciate Tablo. It’s not just that they’ve adapted Tablo’s methods, but this looks strangely suspicious at first glance:


When you open the box, the Owner’s Manual also mimics Tablo’s greatly. Same color scheme, same size and if you don’t look closely, you might easily mistake one for the other. I’ve seen the Interface first-hand, and will say it doesn’t come close to Tablo, but it is nice.

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What’s the price?

How many tuners?

Is there a subscription? If yes, then what’s the price of it?

https://www.weaknees.com/tivo-bolt-ota.php

Damn. Pricey.

TiVo BOLT OTA

$249.99

Monthly subscription of $6.99/month.

The antenna-ready TiVo BOLT OTA offers live, recorded and streaming TV, plus so many more time-saving features. All for a low monthly subscription of $6.99/month, $69.99/yearly or an All-In service plan for $249.99.

Plus you need their mini streamer boxes for all additional TVs.

It’s $250 with a $6.99 monthly (or $69 for a year / $250 lifetime). Four Tuners, Streams 4K for internal apps (Netflix, Hulu, etc.).

Perhaps not this one. “Can stream outside of home”.

Yeah - jeez $179.99 per Mini box.

Access your TiVo DVR from any TV in your home by simply attaching a TiVo Mini VOX. The more TiVo Mini VOX boxes you have, the more you save versus competing multi-room systems.*

The Tivo website you can only stream to iOS and Android tablets and phones.

No Apple TV, Android TV, Roku or Fire TV support.

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This ‘mini streamer box’ BS is exactly why I got a Tablo and got rid of my old TIVO. Far superior platform! :slight_smile:

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For those who didn’t look up the specs, the Bolt has four tuners and a 500 GB hard drive which is user upgradeable. The TiVo records in original signal MPEG2 format. For that reason, live TV channel changes are prompt and the remote has a number pad and also allows you to cycle among the four tuners. Each tuner has a 30 minute buffer and network channels are processed after a recording is finished to allow skipping of commercials with a single button push. This processing may take as little as a few minutes to rather longer but next day viewing with commercial skip is pretty reliable.

Viewing on multiple TVs does require a TiVo Mini for each extra set and the Minis are like having an extra TiVo, i.e., channel changes are just as fast. Viewing on tablets is less convenient than on Tablos. When you select a show you must initiate a recording which is the transcoded to MPEG4 before you can watch. Changing channels requires termination of the recording, selecting the channel and starting the recording/transcoding process all over again.

The Bolt’s streaming capabilities are good if you are content with the Big 4 services – Netflix, Hulu, Youtube and Amazon (the last including any channels you subscribe to through Amazon). Beyond that, the selection is quite limited. One handy feature is that the TiVo search function can add streaming episodes as if they were recordings and the TiVo will take you directly to the service that offers it and to that service’s episode as well. Netflix (at least) begins playing the episode with no further effort. You can delete the “bookmark” from the Bolt when you are done.

There have been beta apps to allow devices to stream from TiVos but those are still under development or in limbo.

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Does the Bolt support the Plex app?

That’s a huge dealer breaker if no.

Yes. But I do not remember what the limitations are. I do remember that it works better than the version on the Roamio.

If we had commercial skip Tablo would beat TiVo in almost every aspect I care about. Commercial skip is part of the reason TiVo has a higher subscription cost though.

With TabloRipper and a small investment in MCEBuddy I DO have commerical skip, more accurately commerical removal. :slight_smile:

I get what you are saying though, something user friendly that is built in.

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I’ve been thinking about that myself but I hate to have an extra computer running just for that function.

Extra computer is your Plex Server… … well… for many of us.

I’m currently not using Plex although that’s also on my maybe list. I am looking into devices to run Plex along with some background tasks. I don’t want to run anything too power hungry though.

Currently I just have a drive attached to my router to serve files.

Devil’s advocate: don’t we owe the OTA content to the advertisers that make it economically feasible to produce shows in the first place, and isn’t it therefore fair to watch and not strip or skip commercials?

To have OTA content and strip commercials feels like having your cake and eating it too. Sorta cheating, no?

Curious re the thoughts of others!

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While sort of true, skipping through commercials dates back to the VCR.