Are we talking about Retired engineer?
Yes. He had already invested in a bunch of Roku devices but he has a Nexus Player and loves it.
OK. He said he was streaming SD is why.
Still using Roku on 5 of my 6 viewing locations and want to minimize grief / LPWs, etc. Actually I am recording on my new 2nd Tablo at fastest rate on some of the same programs as my original lowest bitrate Tablo to compare both Roku LPWs and Nexus performance. Should be interesting to see how the same broadcast encoded on 2 Tablos (one set for SD and the other at 10 Mbits/sec HD) on the same network and player compare with regard to LPWs, reboots, etc. Also want to see where Roku fails but Nexus works well. Will have some comments after a bit of learning how things compare.
Nexus is a great player in comparison to Roku. Brightscript bytecode interpreter and MIPS / ARM processors are weak compared to Intel / Atom with compiled runtime.
Can you detail what you did with your network?
Gee an admission, only three months after others had already mentioned the weak Roku development environment compared to Android devicesā¦all the while continued by some impugning Tabloās development professionalismā¦
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I updated to 2.2.8 using Roku 3 (ver 7). I installed it over a week ago, so I didnāt want to provide any feedback until I had used the latest update for awhile. Even though the overall performance seems to be better, I am still getting LPWs and occasional reboots. Like clockwork, I will get a LPW just shortly after the recording has started and I am still at 720p 3Mps. I figure if I am still having issues at this lower resolution, I surely donāt want it to get worse by bumping up the resolution. I have started to force a restart on my roku before watching a recorded program to help avoid problems, but after an hour or two, I start seeing more LPWs and evenutually it reboots. I have rebooted all my network devices and nothing seems to help. There are some days I just canāt stand the issues with Tablo and Roku, so I watch Netflix without zero issues, so that leads me to believe something is not right with Tablo that needs to be fixed.
Please tell us what you did?
I moved the Tablo from a port on my router to my Ethernet switch. This reduces jitter because the Tablo packets are not queuing in line with competing connections on the port buffers so they just go straight out. The thing with a good switch is they shortcut across the backplane so you are just running wire speed to the port you want to output on. One thing about Roku is they are sensitive to jitter, out of sequence packets, etc. The faster the stream you are trying to run the worse the problem seems to get. I also replaced a few manufacturer supplied Ethernet cables with quality cables. That was it, now streams without error @ 10Mbps. In the case of the Tablo I really think the biggest thing was just moving the port connection from the router to the switch.
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Yeah. Iāve thought about moving the Tablo directly to the same switch the Rokus are on. May try that today and see, but I donāt think I have any open ports. Thanks!
Of course, that would move my Tablo to a location where getting an antenna coax to it might be a problem too. Aaargh.
I believe the built in switch that is in most routers does the exact same thingā¦
No Chris because QOS parameters on the router put the frames in a buffer. Higher priority packets go out first. My home phone system has top priority then video. Itās not a lot of jitter but it was enough to cause some of my not so great cable runs to have an occasional buffering problem at the 10Mbps rate. Think cumulative effect. A bad frame here and there, throw in a bit of jitter and it was enough to cause problems on a marginal cable run.
Router QOS settings only affect WAN port, que no?
Depends on how you have your router set up. Mine is set up with qos queues and qos tagging so everything goes into buffers for prioritization.
2.2.8 has been nearly flawless for me on my 3x Roku 3s (2013 versions). Iāve noticed 2-3 LPWs per week at most. Running 1080p 8mbps.
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My netgear router has QoS WMM for wireless if the client supports it. And per LAN port QoS.
But for me QoS is not the answer. I can get LPW when both the 4210 roku and the tablo are on the same gigabit switch and no other activity is occurring.
My previous post comparing Roku and Nexus players made no āadmissionā whatsoever regarding the relative merits of the ādevelopment environmentsā.
In fact, my comparison specifically described the differences in their RUNTIME environments, interpreted versus compiled. Having not developed code for either platform, I have no basis to prefer or āadmitā any preference for either development environment.
I have not offered any prior Roku to Nexus comparison comments until recently since Iā've only owned and used a Nexus for a couple weeks.
Regarding your claim of my āimpugning Tabloā and their development professionalism, I offer 2 simple statements. The first is that I have just purchased a second Tablo, so my personal and financial support for them is tangible and very recent.
Second comment is that their handling of numerous issues reflects a small, struggling, and immature company with great ambitions, a terrific concept, and far too many significant technical problems which persist month after month, in some cases worsening.
Even if you have never worked in a software development organization which has been certified to ISO 9001 quality standards or Carnegie Mellon Level 4 Maturity, you will understand what my comments refer to, the absence of software quality assurance being demmonstrated here in this and many other forum threads / complaints.
Take a look at this thread if you still have doubts:
ā2.2.8 has been nearly flawless for me on my 3x Roku 3s (2013 versions). Iāve noticed 2-3 LPWs per week at most. Running 1080p 8mbps.ā
DaFury - Based on all the feedback I have seen so far on this release, I think ānearly flawlessā is a bit of a stretch, unless you hardly watch any TV and hardly ever fast forward. Or it might be you just donāt know any better. No doubt about it, running at 1080p, there are some performance issues. Sorry, I just donāt believe it.
You seem to assume that because many posters have problems with 2.2.8, that all Roku users must have problems. My wife and I watch a lot of tv (both live and recordings) and always fast forward through commercials on recorded tv. We have virtually no Tablo/Roku issues. It works just the way I hoped it would. However, it is obvious to me that others have had different experiences. Generally, except for poor souls like me with too much time on their hands, people donāt post if the product is working well. Certainly, that is the case here for many Roku users. So not sure you have any reason to disbelieve @DaFury who claims
ā2.2.8 has been nearly flawless for me on my 3x Roku 3s (2013 versions). Iāve noticed 2-3 LPWs per week at most. Running 1080p 8mbps.ā
I meant to add that the only āperformance issueā I have seen running at 1080 720@60 fps is when I watched the Falcons play yesterday. My Tabl/Roku were flawless - not so much for the Falcons.
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I have two Rokus but generally only watch on one of them, where I continue to have occasional LPWs. I had an opportunity to watch on the other Roku this weekend, with no LPWs which was unexpected. They both tie into the same Ethernet switch, so the only difference, assuming the Roku hardware is working properly in both, are the Ethernet cables. The cabling was a pain to install, so difficult to try to swap that, but I am planning on swapping to Rokus themselves to see if the LPWs tracks the Rokus or the cables.
Or maybe it was just some coincidence, because even on the one where I get some LPWs, there are long stretches where I do not get any.
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