The ______ (fill in evil word there) people behind NextgenTV “forced” huge (billions of dollars) in infrastructure investment, and then ruined every advantage by hampering the entire “future” with DRM (and poorly done DRM at that) and “spying” wares as part of the whole package. But that “forced” expenditure is why stations have to see the change… I mean, it’s a lot of money just “sitting” there. If NextgenTV didn’t continually push for anti-consumer changes, we would have probably been enjoying “better”… but they pooped all over it. So, what’s good about ATSC 3.0? I’d say absolutely nothing now. Thanks to NextgenTV.
But the other side (not forcing - that is crap) is that once a user sees how clear and crisp ATSC 3 is they won’t want to go back to vs 1.
Again, the problem is “once a user sees”, and the pundits are trying to prevent that. I’ve never seen a more suicidal group.
I’m glad your eyes can handle resolution higher than 720P. My 80+ year old eyes can’t.
I won’t have a problem if we can use it without the Internet connection. The Internet connection is my primary concern. I admit that I am paranoid about the possibility of an unscrupulous government making 1984 and the loss of privacy a reality by using technology that I helped develop in a small way.
A real example of how the tech can be abused happened a few years ago using the Alexa. When we talk to Alexa, the speech is digitized and sent over the inner to the processing center where requests are fulfilled and returned to the Alexa. The problem was that technicians at the center were listening in on general in house conversation, even when the Alexa wasn being used. That is pure invasion of privacy.
Just imagine the invasions that can occur with voice activated remotes.
There are a lot of ways that we can be monitored without our knowledge, even with our phones that we think are turned off. We can’t get a phone with a removable battery to guarantee that power is off anymore.
Other than atsc3 privacy concerns, there’s no way that i’m going to start paying for something that was free.
After I upgraded my home network with my own more capable gear, I discovered the #1 outgoing traffic device in my home was my wife’s little Google Assistant. It’s no longer in service.
The primary purpose of anything Google is to gather data.
astrojimbo,
Its not the ability for my eyes to see I am talking about. ATSC3 is SMOOTH without spinning circles and the somewhat constant pausing like vs 1. I have a great antenna system on my legacy Tablos and watching shows is very acceptable, but its literally never going to be as smooth as gen 3 because the tech just isn’t there.
Regarding the requirement to “unplug” from the internet to watch now that I understand. I would only mention that using such an approach means you have to be thorough in your home. If you have Androids and Iphones sitting next to your tablo remote along with other such devices, then the presented argument in this thread is like patching ONE hole in the bottom of a boat where there are a dozen other holes ----- just my thinking.
Internet connectivity wise I don’t want to live in a scenario where I attempt to be “gone” from everything because its too tough and I feel confident most will fail repeatedly. So for me I live two lives. Mainly I do use Androids and am “connected” in many areas. The other life has a faraday type room where there is not wireless device and only a super clean linux computer using VPNs, TOR, and more ------ no exceptions in that room. My phone stays on another level of the home so there is no invasion of that space. Frankly that is the best situation for my needs and as far as I want to go with it.
ATSC 3.0 Update from Lon.TV
Interesting video from Lon, thanks for posting about it.
He goes directly after zapperbox with some of his critique and after watching the entire video I better understand why, and am even more content to stick with my Tablo to see where all this goes.
The issue isn’t ATSC 3.0 itself but rather the encryption they’re trying to get approved. The FCC needs to mandate “no public airwave encryption,” period. The encryption is the problem.
Yes. But sadly, unlikely. We have “tried”… like really really really tried. It’s a “non-starter” right now with regards to discussion. This has become “the hill” the broadcaster’s will die on.
Any hope on it? Right now, it doesn’t look good. The age of traditional legal consumer oriented OTA usage appears to be over. Btw, this will greatly greatly greatly expand some really creative and nasty pirating stuff. Are the “powers” preventing you from recording and/or viewing OTA? When the cages are put in place… eventually people will revolt in mass. Broadcaster’s think “you’re a tiny bug to be squashed” right now. I could see this backfiring in ways they never knew.
I think DRM is the problem, not encryption, because while DRM likely requires encryption, I believe they can implement encryption without DRM.
What is the Difference Between DRM and Encryption?[1]
Many people confuse DRM with encryption, but they serve different purposes.
- Encryption is designed to prevent unauthorized access to a file. If you encrypt a video file, only those with the correct decryption key can open it. However, once a user decrypts and opens the file, they can do whatever they want with it, such as sharing, copying, or modifying the content.
- DRM (Digital Rights Management) goes beyond encryption. It not only ensures that only authorized users can access the content but also controls how they can use it. DRM can restrict printing, copying, editing, and even set an expiration date for content access.
Honestly. I think it’s still both, at least in some capacity. If there is ever the need for a decryption key change, if it’s “burnt” into the hardware for any of the products with no easy way to change it (which is usually sending the device in so it can be changed at the hardware level or by the issuer of the key), then the device is basically now a brick.
In fact, that almost makes me wonder if something like that happened with the ADTH box.