Even with FW update Roku still freezing and rebooting?

Uncork the champagne bottle :beers:

No, not necessarily. Call it incompatibility and try moving on to NP or Shield as others have done with excellent results, myself included. Use your Roku for other apps although I’ve read complaints about Roku with some others as well.

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I really wish everyone wasn’t so anxious to abandon Roku. The only problem that I have ever had with my Roku was while watching a Tablo recording. Period. I’m sure somebody, somewhere, is having some other problem with a Roku, but lets keep it in perspective. There are so many things that can go wrong with streaming that it’s almost surprising that it works as well as it does as often as it does. When some new Tablo update causes Android streamers to screw up, will everyone then be as anxious to flee to Roku? I don’t know, but I think it makes more sense to address the actual problem because at some point, it’s like dodging raindrops.

I haven’t checked for/with the new Roku firmware, but I have my fingers crossed. But I have to confess too that with the only problems that I am seeing coming from Tablo, I would be more optimistic if I had seen an acknowledgement of the problem from the Tablo guys, as well as a fix from them. But hey, if it works (and it keeps working), that’s going to make it a lot harder to complain!

Not sure what you mean, not only the Tablo guys, but the CEO have acknowledged issues. So Far the newest Roku firmware has, by a large majority that posted, fixed the issues.

I did see that announcement, but it did not address my main problem at all. And as @Adam mentioned, I felt that too little, too late. And heck, it’s been a month and a half since then anyway, and still nothing from of substance from Nuvyyo. In the end, it appears as if the problem was accidentally solved by Roku.

I realize that lot of people were suffering with the LPW dialog and a rash of other issues, but none of that stuff has ever been a big problem for me - my main concern has always been the Roku lock-ups and reboots. And you know, to this good day, I still haven’t seen a list of solutions to go with that list of symptoms.

There was some reason to believe that certain people were suffering simply because the new firmware (apparently) defaulted to a higher recording bit-rate than its predecessor. It would have been much smarted to make it stay just like it was, which is the option that I believe they eventually added back in. But the only reason that bad decision caused trouble for some people was that that particular group of people has marginal network setups that just couldn’t handle the extra bandwidth requirements. That particular problem had no effect at all on my setup. All this business has been going on for a long time now, so I don’t redeemer all of the fine details, but I do remember feeling like there was a lot of speculation and deflection, but not much in the way of hard facts, proposed solutions, timelines, or even announcements of the solutions.after the fact.

You have to know the Roku and Tablo firmware update came out about the same time when the issues started being noticed.

The memo does not address what everyone says it does / did. It just says ‘here are the problems, and we’re working on them’ - months after they started working on them, but when the problems were reaching critical mass.

Huh? “4) On Roku delays in starting playback, delays during playback, or delays with FF/REW all with “loading “ message”

This was the major issue, so not sure what you mean it does not address the issue.

The supposition was that Tablo had already said it was Roku’s problem. The memo was pointed to as evidence of that. I was pointing out that there was no such verbiage - I was not attempting to question the content of the post - just questioning what the nameless / faceless said it contained… a.k.a. the ‘neener neener neender, it was roku’ brigade.

But as the results are showing, they were correct :wink:

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They may have been correct… who knows? But, if they were, it was simply because they guessed. 4 firmware revisions to address Roku specific problems that arguably broke more things than they fixed would tell a different story. As I’ve said… I’m very happy if the Roku / Tablo issues are now addressed. But, the fact that countless thousands of dollars and hours were wasted by users that took the marketing advice / bait and purchased products that didn’t work together is the more interesting perspective, if you ask me. I was personally told my network was to blame. I personally purchased 3x Roku 3 and a Roku 4 under false pretenses (of which I’ve dumped for the Shield) - these are issues that an ethical company would have dealt with… ethically - as opposed to advertising a pairing that was known not to work. The problems were widespread. There is no such thing as a TV power user. Who should be blamed for that? Well, honestly, I’m going to go with the company that continued to advertise that the pairing worked… and not only did it work… but it was featured in every advertisement I’ve seen - this is the problem. But, my money says Roku is in talks to buy Tablo… but what do I know?

Um, http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tablo-SPVR4-01-NA/37938466 - I had this here before you removed that comment

Network has a huge amount to do with Tablo functionality and no 2 are the same.

But I don’t see how one can expect a product to work with so many things and not have some issues from time to time.

Personally before I even thought about buying a Tablo I looked at the forum to see if there were issues and looked at all other solutions. Tablo by far does more than the others for what I needed. And up until a few months back Roku and Tablo worked great together.

And as far as your Roku is gonna buy Tablo, highly doubtful and the responsiveness Roku gives customers is WAY lower than Tablo’s responsiveness, so I certainly hope not :wink:

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You guys have a different logic than I do. The only channel not working on the Roku was the Tablo, and somehow, that’s a Roku issue? I’d like to see a technical explanation of how that is even possible. Maybe a Roku update could make it more tolerant of whatever the root Tablo problem actually was, but that is not necessarily the best (or most permanent) solution to the actual problem.

I think Roku support is much worse than Tablo support, so I’m not looking forward to an acquisition…other than the fact that we could probably count on the two products working together at that point…but I’d be surprised if that would be good for compatibility with any other streaming device.

Ha! That actually made me laugh out loud! Thank you for that.

Others as well as myself have said that we have had issues with other channels. I personally had issues with Netflix, HBO, Amazon as well as Tablo. But I allso said Tablo seemed to be worse than the others.

Those are no longer issues as well that I can tell so far. But only time will tell.

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You must be joking. The Roku community is laced with complainnts from users about all manner of channels not working. In fact the latest Roku build that some have suggested fixes the Tablo issues some were having wasn’t aimed at Tablo at all but was aimed at WatchESPN - just the most recent example of a “Roku channel not working.” Say what you want but maybe try to be accurate?

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You know, I used to make my living as a network administrator. I have installed, maintained and administered some pretty big networks in my days. And it need not be mysterious. I never encountered any device or application on any business network that was anywhere near as frustrating to make work as my Tablo.

No doubt there are a lot of home networks that are not built all that well, and no doubt Wi-Fi adds a whole extra level of uncertainty, but the biggest problem with making Tablo work is that there are no built-in diagnostic tools. So all that anyone can do, including the support guys, is to guess.

Any number of sub-$50 wireless routers have infinitely better configuration and administrative interfaces than Tablo. It’s typically easy to observe the signal quality of wireless clients, it’s easy to see the status of both the wired WAN and the wired LAN. You can open ports, close ports, redirect ports, turn the RF power up and down, check the temperature of the device…all kinds of useful and handy stuff.

If a $300 (before hard drive) Tablo had a fraction of the functionality of a network device that costs one-sixth as much, just think how much better it would be for everyone concerned. I simple web interface would be a great starting point. Then add signal strength and signal quality monitoring for the ATSC signal, as well as Wi-Fi. Might as well make it so that temperature can be monitored too, because the thing does run pretty hot, and that information could be very useful. Who knows how many problems could be solved with these simple diagnostic tools alone…(?) And there are so many more possibilities.

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Yes, if Tablo was a really mature product I might tend to agree with what you said about the different tools and functionality it could have. But remember this is a very new product and they are working on things to make it better. But it is not a network tool, it is a streaming device and they have done a pretty good job of making it work with many platforms. When I bought it they had browser, a poorly designed Roku interface and ipad as the main platforms and in a little over a year they sure have gone pretty far with this little box.

We can all complain about something it currently doesn’t do, but they are a small company doing their best ( I am sure some would disagree with that ) and I think they have done well.

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I was just relating my own personal experience with my two Roku’s, and I didn’t intentionally write anything that wasn’t accurate. But for the record, I haven’t tried WatchESPN.

I do watch Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Showtime Anytime, HBO Go, PBS, YouTube, Twitch, and a bunch of others, though. And seriously, I have never had any significant problem with any of them.

I think I have to stop posting tonight though…the thread seems to be kind of blowing up and I can’t keep up…and you guys are probably tired of reading my post by now anyway!

I removed it because when I checked the other night, they were gone - and there’s been some white-knighting going on - my comment was incorrect, that’s why I edited it - within 2 minutes of posting :wink:

It’s not a “from time to time” thing - and again, I was told my network was likely the issue… and trust me… it wasn’t the issue. That’s sort of the point. There’s no need to make excuses for any of this - It’s all there. Tablo releases wave after wave of firmware to solve a problem with its interaction with Roku. Tablo gives Roku top spot in advertising WHILE the problem gets worse. Tablo cannot explain problem. Tablo blames problems on users.

It’s a moot point now… except that Tablo acted unethically in my opinion. You can be “responsive” and unethical - these are not mutually exclusive.