100MB Ethernet interface only? No GigE?

Just wondering if I am crazy. Just hooked up my new Tablo and I am unable to get it to negotiate or even connect over 100MB. Do these units not have GigE?


 I have tried known good cables runnning 1000MB and still no luck. Even forced the link speed on my switch.

Tell me it ain’t true?

GewGaw
(so disapoointed)

@GeeGaw 


The Tablo’s Ethernet port is 100MB, because this is all it needs. A 1080p stream is sent out of the Tablo at 10Mbps, so even if you had a 4-tuner running 4 simultaneous 1080p transcodes, it still wouldn’t use even half of the 100MB port’s limit. Hope this helps!

As a network designer/architect and support person, you don’t need 1000 Ethernet on Tablo.

The government agency I work for backs up many Gigabytes of data/files every night over a 100Mb connection to the central backup servers. We push out well over a gig of data across our WAN/VPN/Lan-to-Lan connections in well under an hour over 100Mb and that’s not counting the other people in the same office using that same connection. 
We run 24 VMWare-based servers on 2 ESXi hosts with 1Gig interfaces with no troubles. 
Imagine, 24 servers all part of a government forest, file servers, security servers, RADIUS, VPN Gateways, domain controllers, print servers, etc. all sharing a 1gig connection.

Oh, the answer, I nearly forgot!  no, they have 100 and nothing more. 
First off I need to say for a +$200 system that is built in North America it would be EXPECTED to include a 1000mb interface (whether it is needed or not, it will ALWAYS be a question in the users minds when performance is questioned and performance will ALWAYS be questioned with such devices, especially early on. My expectations were not met and it was such an expectation that I didn't even look to see what the interface included is. This seems like a cost saving step which may backfire for the early adopters... I will wage the next version will have 1000mb.

With that said, I guess I'll have to see (I have been a Network engineer and currently a storage architect/advisor with a federal gov't for WELL OVER a decade). I am well aware of what can be done on a 100mb connection, I am also VERY well aware of what a 1000mb connection can improve things. I am coming from a SageTV setup with multiple HD streams (sometimes four or five) along with multiple recording sessions all occurring at the same time. I know I have used over 100mb of this system.

My initial take is not good with the quality to the Roku devices and PC. The tablets seem okay. As far as speed of stream starting and the quality of picture SageTV blows the Tablo out of the water. Will continue to test and tweak and see if this is a solution to replace my current setup and the setup at my various friends and family I have setup.

I really appreciate your information and quick response, I have been lurking on this forums for a while and love the atmosphere... I hope to slide into the community and help better the product.

I really hope so as I would like a Canadian company to succeed :)



Thanks again :)

GewGaw

Roku, FireTv, and AppleTv are all 10/100 ethernet devices.   That is the expected speed, not 1 GB.  



+1

snowcat is right per usual.

First off I need to say for a +$200 system that is built in North America it would be EXPECTED to include a 1000mb interface (whether it is needed or not, it will ALWAYS be a question in the users minds when performance is questioned and performance will ALWAYS be questioned with such devices, especially early on. My expectations were not met and it was such an expectation that I didn't even look to see what the interface included is. This seems like a cost saving step which may backfire for the early adopters... I will wage the next version will have 1000mb.

With that said, I guess I'll have to see (I have been a Network engineer and currently a storage architect/advisor with a federal gov't for WELL OVER a decade). I am well aware of what can be done on a 100mb connection, I am also VERY well aware of what a 1000mb connection can improve things. I am coming from a SageTV setup with multiple HD streams (sometimes four or five) along with multiple recording sessions all occurring at the same time. I know I have used over 100mb of this system.

My initial take is not good with the quality to the Roku devices and PC. The tablets seem okay. As far as speed of stream starting and the quality of picture SageTV blows the Tablo out of the water. Will continue to test and tweak and see if this is a solution to replace my current setup and the setup at my various friends and family I have setup.

I really appreciate your information and quick response, I have been lurking on this forums for a while and love the atmosphere... I hope to slide into the community and help better the product.

I really hope so as I would like a Canadian company to succeed :)



Thanks again :)

GewGaw

As a point of comparison the SiliconDust HDHomeRun EXTEND, a network dual OTA TV tuner with two real time h.264 encoders costs $125 also has a 100Mb port.

My first experience with the device has been very positive so far. As things seem to be settling in over the past few days. Looking forward to UI and functionality improvements.

I appreciate the feedback to my post and don’t dispute the experience ask if you have with the devices.

Thanks again,
Gewgaw


My initial take is not good with the quality to the Roku devices and PC. The tablets seem okay. As far as speed of stream starting and the quality of picture SageTV blows the Tablo out of the water. Will continue to test and tweak and see if this is a solution to replace my current setup and the setup at my various friends and family I have setup.

I really appreciate your information and quick response, I have been lurking on this forums for a while and love the atmosphere... I hope to slide into the community and help better the product.

I really hope so as I would like a Canadian company to succeed :)



Thanks again :)

GewGaw

Same here - I REALLY want them to succeed and it’s good to have high-quality lurkers and contributors here.


I tried FireTV stick last night and have to say even with the app not MADE for FireTV, it and the mouse situation, side-loading and so on, I was blown away by the performance of the FireTV playing Tablo recordings. WiFi and all, it just blew everything else away, but then why not - look at the specs Amazon has plugged into that thing. 
I watched a show last night that I had recorded earlier and that I simply had gotten frustrated with and give up on ever being able to view it without wanting to throw a brick through the TV due to jumping, skipping, pausing/buffering and so on. It played flawlessly and with much sharper picture and better color via the Fire TV stick.  It used a side-loaded apk of the tablet native app, not the web app, and it was so nice I can’t wait for the final release of their REAL FireTV app.

+1

snowcat is right per usual.

By the way - we need a “SCIR” icon in this forum. Then we’d just click that and say what we say daily “snowcat is right”.   Tablo folks - where’s that “snowcat is right” icon?

Of course any cat is right, just ask them! 

:smiley:


I may have to change my name because I am getting a bit sick of snow.  My kids finally got to go back to school yesterday after missing 7 days due to snow and ice, but it snowed another inch overnight, so schools are closed again (it doesn’t take much in the South).


And @GewGaw, I apologize if I was a little terse with my response to you.   Your question about the Tablo being just 10/100 has been asked a few times already.  


@GewGaw -


I too was a long time SageTV user roughly 8 years and was very active over there as well.

Just wanted to say Welcome!   more and more SageTV users are coming over I can only hope my posts over on that forum have been helpful in attracting more attention.

You will love Tablo!

just to stay with the Cat theme allbeit not a snow cat 



By the way - we need a "SCIR" icon in this forum. Then we'd just click that and say what we say daily "snowcat is right".   Tablo folks - where's that "snowcat is right" icon?
Right here!




I have it bookmarked for future use. Because it will inevitably be used again. :D 

Thanks a bunch, @PiX64 - now I am craving lasagna. 

(Cats rule, dogs drool.)