Trying to get people to get rid of their cable and satellite in Philadelphia

Sort of. Current young adults have no idea of life before cell phones, computers, Internet, etc. Shoot, many “discovered” vinyl and now “it’s hip”. I saw someone the other day turn an old rotary phone dialer into a mobile phone. Retro is cool, but there’s a lot of “retro” yet “undiscovered” by current adults.

OTA is as old as much of that. And it’s retro cool!

On the discussion , you all have the same idea my tech friend has. Shall see if it works. Love when I have the source where I can get the items at and people would rather else where. So my answer will be you have to get the equipment from such and such or I charge more. appreciate the responses.

Along with “current young adult” I’d toss in the “American way”… don’t think, just follow and do what they say. Marketing (corporations) and media have taken over decision making.

Yet dated terms and icons are accepted. How often “are you taping this?” as though a cell phone has video tape in it? “Taping this” has come to mean recording a video to a generation who’s never touched a video tape.

There’s icon with motion picture film, :film_strip: :film_projector: without question is accepted as video. A desktop rotary phone icon :phone: :telephone_receiver: is easily recognized as a phone today, while it’s been decades since it’s been seriously used. A square with two sticks :tv: is an obvious television.

They know the symbols… but don’t know what they are?

Depending on your location, start with an inexpensive antenna. Understand, there really is no such thing as an “HD” antenna. A TV antenna is a TV antenna - it’s an antenna It doesn’t need to be fancy, just adequate and properly adjusted!

I have this from ~30 years ago, when HD may have meant heavy duty, I’m over 50 miles away from transmission towers. So if a low cost can get a few channels… prove things can work. Move on to a decent antenna if things work.

They know they are “old”, and “boomer” and therefore “anathema”.

Like asking someone born before 1970, “When are you upgrading to a ‘horse and buggy’?”

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Another thing I get a lot is “I just watch YouTube”. Many times the person I’m talking to isn’t referring to YouTube TV but traditional made for YouTube content. We have huge companies making content there now.

truly sad that people don’t see through. I hate youtube because too much censor ship.

I guess they don’t read reviews. The reviews are horrible for youtube tv, no customer service, lacking of different things. I would say , well good luck with what you have if you desire, there are alternatives with better options.

well fortunately if anyone is trying to get rid of dish and directv, I have to read about the weather and especially rain. Lightning strikes. If anyone can find an article about that and the lightning strike let me know. I can find out from manufacturers, because I can beat out any tech that doesn’t know what their doing.

Youtube almost costs as much as cable.

Video content comes with a price. It isn’t “evil companies” out there trying to rip off people. Each channel has a cost to the cable company or streaming company. They have a small markup (usually 5-10%). The main difference in streaming vs. cable is in streaming - you own the boxes (i.e. Roku, FireTV, etc) vs. renting a cable box.

I gave up cable years ago, and went virtually 100% over the air with Tablo. I don’t subscribe to any live TV services - I change subscriptions between Hulu, Paramount Plus and a couple of others to binge watch shows that I miss. The only thing that stinks is live sporting events. And I won’t pay the price to watch those events at home.

I will be honest. I really don’t like sports because I can see through it and decode what teams will win it. I agree with you about everything else mentioned. But the biggest question is this. What is a cable box? I am going to get the $179 lifetime before this month is over with. Tablo support rocks. If I can find out the two options tablo does then I can let people know. Owning the boxes isn’t the problem. The problem here in Philadelphia was people were downloading illegal stuff that they shouldn’t have but I may have the way to explore the options to people. With in this house I live in, I keep telling my mom, she would have been paying $2400- $3000 for the yr. Look at what was saved. And to her she doesn’t quite get it. Our verizon bill is about $125 per month, I can write it off on my taxes because I obviously use internet for business expense.

youtube is a ripoff and agreed cost as much as cable

I have either a Roku Streaming Stick or FireTV 4K Stick on my TVs (a couple have both), and I use those to stream Tablo to my TVs. The Streaming sticks are the “cable box” (whether you are using Tablo for the programming or you are using something like YouTubeTV or DStream or other service).

My average bill is less than $10 per month (for my streaming services - I only subscribe to one at a time), and I could probably live without them with all the free stuff like Pluto TV, Stirr, and others…

I remember watching on youtube of a tech that was interviewed and the people that did the downloads of kodi , it was insane like those people didn’t see nothing wrong and they’re like it’s not illegal. crazy stuff. so, the reporter would go on and look at the chat and different things and she could tell like what the heck is everyone doing. This was in texas too. if a techie telling people not to do it, then I wonder why people would want to do it.

Not sure if you are young enough to remember Napster…everyone shared music online, and everyone thought it was “legal”…until it was proven in court that it wasn’t.

There was a wise man that started Cord Cutting News a few years back, and he had a saying, “If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.”

Nothing is free. And if company “A” sells something for $50 and company “B” is selling the exact same thing for $5, there is probably something wrong with it. Usually the “great deal” is $45 instead of $50…

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You started this wanting to promote Tablo and/or OTA viewership? How is youtube’s censorship “too much” compared to the broadcasting networks?

In the context, it cost to produce and distribute content. Of course corporations purpose is to generate profit (almost by any means LOL).

Toss in the “evil”, there’s 3-6 major media corporations deciding what Americans, maybe the world gets to watch. With all the little social engineering or political views, social perspective. This includes what was once known as news.

I find I hit-n-miss with services too. I realize I spend (too much) time binge watching one and haven’t use another for some time so I cancel it… maybe pick it up again a few months later. I think part of this come from a generation - watching you money, what’s getting paid “automatically” and knowing where your money is going.

In the context of “own the box” it’s whether you have to pay another $120/yr to the corp to use their service. It allows them to advertise their service $10 less than what it actually cost to actually use their service - hidden fee. If it’s a cable “modem”/router/wifi access point, well it’s likely not the quality you really need.

and then this happened :frowning_face:

Today, I am excited to announce that the Cord Cutters News’s website has been sold to Red Ventures.

It is where I discovered quality information about Tablo, before here. After the transition it hasn’t been the same. Even though there were a bunch of :poop: heads, shutting down comments… I do miss Luke’s articles. If you click on his name in that post you get a 404, seems they want nothing to do with CCN’s beginnings.

My point is that no one reads reviews of anything, they see stuff and go for it. Youtube is censoring comments on that site for specific reasons.

True! There are many posts from irate user because their tablo doesn’t work how they think it should. While most of their issue are clearly stated on the product page… much less a few clicks/taps here and there.

people need to stop complaining . this forum is decent. I can’t say for all, here in Philadelphia people at most and I am not going to say where, they wanted only to pay a flat fee rate, some don’t look at their billing statements, if most of them did the math, and took a look at their equipment it would make a difference.

People like my mom , I finally had enough and showed her the math what she is really paying.

The other problem is I would get questions. Do you get this channel and that channel? Now my answer is this. I will come out for a rate of $50 per hour and take a look. People need to appreciate for someone like me or some others on this forum. If people say screw that they’re not paying, I say good luck and have a stupendous day. People, at least some feel their entitled because they have been ripped off. Not a chance, you either respect me or go ahead and get someone shady and ruin your current situation. ty for allowing me to vent

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