It’s probably representative of typical consumers and/or users. It’s probably made-up, but it pretty much represents “the masses”.
Mentioned several times - others have brought up this topic, it’s known, even though he hasn’t amalgamated the telemetry.
If this if from 2 TV… tune each to the same channel!! Then they would be in perfect alignment! I do it often, it’s painless, effortless, there’s no stress and nothing to complain about.
One point you passed over, TiVo is completely proprietary. Tablo works across device manufactures - brings in limitations. So, not all apps or devices have the exact same abilities - Apps & Compatible Devices - Tablo TV How can you honestly expect they’ll all behave and interact with each other simultaneously? Seriously!?!? How can you get each different device interact the same way with the tablo to achieve your utopia?
Viewer at TV#1 tunes to channel with news - view at TV#2 tunes to channel with news. It’s a TV, use it for what it is. You don’t need an app to watch the news on your television.
Again, proprietary devices engineered to work this way.
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A statement that contains the words “probably”, “probably” again, and “pretty much” can’t then reasonably assert something that should be considered a fact we can all agree on.
Although there has not been any research, it’s a phrase used to represent the masses or majority of a typical group. This is surmised from Nuvyyo’s marketing this product based on the business model of it not being a “multicasting” device.
Yes, speculation – but there is some bases for it, even if just rudimentary common sense, Nuvyyo seems to have a high ranking OTA DVR on the market and they claim to sell the new quad as soon and they get into stock.
In the end, I don’t think you’ll get it. You wanted a cheap video distribution system, cheap isn’t the way to go… now you want everything to work the way you need it to - even though it was never engineered as your inexpensive answer to an expensive equipment.
It’s still the simple solution. If you won’t follow it, then I blame you and not the Tablo. Each device can be paused to get in sync with all the other devices with a minimum of effort.
My request was for Multicast on already recorded content, ie: to watch the same recorded TV episode or Movie from different rooms at the same time. I was perfectly fine using OTA for those shows that are live.
I frequently have this request when I am playing something already recorded, and my wife is doing something in another room (like cooking, laundry, etc…), and wants to watch the same thing I am watching. I just have to tell her that it is not possible with the current equipment (the Tablo). I also don’t want/need each TV watching to be able to manipulate (Pause, FF, Rew, etc) the stream. I just wanted it to work like OTA, multiple receivers that can’t alter the source. Which ever receiver started it would have control, and the others would just subscribe to the stream and get whatever was playing.
The explanations given to me months ago as to why this was not possible with the Tablo were adequate enough for me to end my efforts on this blog and seek another solution. The one thing I found that might work was:
and a multi-source version:
Unfortunately, I have not had the time to do enough research to see if they would actually work. As the technology is complicated enough that I loose patience wading through the technical documentation to understand it sufficiently to actually buy something. More than likely, you would have to use a different app than the Tablo app on your smart TV, but when I was looking into this, there did seem to be some apps that were available for the Samsung and other Smart TV’s that might work.
Sorry to have caused all the consternation about this. But I do appreciate those of us “Edge Cases” lobbying for the feature. Hopefully one of us will figure out a cost justifiable solution to this, and let the others know about it.
It certainly is possible. It works just like if you started Netflix in a room and then wanted to watch the same show in another room. You just have to manipulate the streams so both are at the same point.
I’m not convinced it’s possible due to the way they have the device designed. I have yet to ID which processor they use in these units, I would assume some type of ARM based device. Also the Pixelworks video processor I believe does most of the work and it may not allow the stream to be manipulated in the way you think. In theory and assuming some type of processor is handling all the packets then sure it could be done. I just question how much s being offloaded to custom hardware that take the processioning out of the equation.
Device 1 has started with a live or recorded stream. It has been going on for five minutes.
Device 2 is turned on. The user wants his show to be in the same spot as the other show.
Solution: Fast forward device 2 to the same spot as device 1. It does require some communication between the two users as to where that spot is. It might even help if the first user pauses.
Now if Device 1 is pretty far into a recorded show, I would pause that recording and exit out of the recording. Then both users can go back into the recording at that spot.
So your talking about two devices now, I thought you were talking about from one device. It may be possible from one device just not for Live TV. They would need to use up one of the stream processors and then sync the timing. You could of course just use an HDMI splitter or even a wireless HDMI repeater and just switch the input on the 2nd TV to the alternate source.
yeah, but that’s what we call pseudo-sync. Not as bad as synchronizing across disparate cassette tape boom boxes (where motor speeds vary and cassette uniformity varies), but similar in some ways. Like you said, you can do it with some external (man powered) coordination.
Well played.
I also don’t want/need each TV watching to be able to manipulate (Pause, FF, Rew, etc) the stream. I just wanted it to work like OTA, multiple receivers that can’t alter the source. Which ever receiver started it would have control, and the others would just subscribe to the stream and get whatever was playing.